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StandleStill

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StandleStill

Tue, 09 Apr 2019 19:42:50 +0200 last edited: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 17:57:26 +0200

!Hubzilla Support Forum @Mike Macgirvin âš¡ @Mike Macgirvin

1) "The activitypub protocol does not support location independence. Connections you make within that network may be unreachable from alternate channel locations."

I am trying to interpret above statement
1A) What is location independence?
1B) Hubzilla supports location independence?
1C) What is alternate channel locations? Alternate channel locations means the channel i have at different location/hubs in hubzilla?

2) I created a chatroom, how can i invite others in that chatroom?
2A) are there any public chatrooms available in federation/fediverse/diaspora/hubzilla/mastodon like in telegram/irc/slack?
2B) Is it possible to connect to IRC/slack/telegram/matrix chatrooms from Hubzilla, how?
2C) How to federate with matrix?

3) How to send/receive messages from mastodon/diaspora users?

4) How to use nextcloud services from this hub?

5) Which are other active forums related to coding/hardware/linux/embedded etc.. on hubzilla except HSF?

6) How to email from hubzilla to gmail/yahoomail etc.. and viceversa

7) How can i unfollow/make it hidden - some specific channels appearing public stream?

Admin VFfsM e.V.

Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:10:40 +0200

Oh... I will repeat my answer from here for others that could see this post first:

In Hubzilla you can create Clones of your channel on various servers (when you create a new channel click on "Import existing channel" in the end of the form), that's part of what we call Nomadic Identity. As a user you are relatively independent from the server(s) you use, you can use several servers simultaneous or move your channel regularly, how ever you like it.

But there is a big downside: other protocols (ActivityPub, Diaspora, Gnu Social) do not support this feature, so you should add contacts in other protocolls only to one of your channel clones to avoid double posts and id errors (mainly for your contacts, not necessarily for you).

In particular:
1A) independency from the Hubzilla server(s) you use that can be done with the help of channels clones (as described above)
1B) Yes (Hubzilla and Zap, but no others that I would know of)
1C) The channels vffsm2987@nbg.vffsm.de and vffsm@mint-n-er.de are clones of each other. As a Hubzilla user you could add one of them to your contacts, say vffsm@mint-n-er.de, and this contact will stay active even if the copy on mint-n-er.de is deleted or the server goes down; also you will have the contact on all clones of your own channel, if you have any. But this feature only works with Hubzilla (and probably with Zap) contacts, not with contacts from other protocols.

Admin VFfsM e.V.

Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:13:06 +0200

ad 3) as described here: activate the Diaspora and Gnu Social addons, then add your contacts from other services, after that you should get their (new) posts.

Doesn't that work?

Explain me like i am 5

StandleStill

Mon, 08 Apr 2019 20:07:22 +0200 last edited: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 20:07:57 +0200

1) "The activitypub protocol does not support location independence. Connections you make within that network may be unreachable from alternate channel locations."

I am trying to interpret above statement
1A) What is location independence?
1B) Hubzilla supports location independence?
1C) What is alternate channel locations? Alternate channel locations means the channel i have at different location/hubs in hubzilla?

@Hubzilla Support Forum

Admin VFfsM e.V.

Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:08:07 +0200

In Hubzilla you can create Clones of your channel on various servers (when you create a new channel click on "Import existing channel" in the end of the form), that's part of what we call Nomadic Identity. As a user you are relatively independent from the server(s) you use, you can use several servers simultaneous or move your channel regularly, how ever you like it.

But there is a big downside: other protocols (ActivityPub, Diaspora, Gnu Social) do not support this feature, so you should add contacts in other protocolls only to one of your channel clones to avoid double posts and id errors (mainly for your contacts, not necessarily for you).

In particular:
1A) independency from the Hubzilla server(s) you use that can be done with the help of channels clones (as described above)
1B) Yes (Hubzilla and Zap, but no others that I would know of)
1C) The channels vffsm2987@nbg.vffsm.de and vffsm@mint-n-er.de are clones of each other. As a Hubzilla user you could add one of them to your contacts, say vffsm@mint-n-er.de, and this contact will stay active even if the copy on mint-n-er.de is deleted or that server goes down for good (or bad); also you will have the contact on all clones of your own channel, if you have any. But this feature only works with Hubzilla (and probably with Zap) contacts, not with contacts from other protocols.

Latest Hubzilla Version

StandleStill

Mon, 08 Apr 2019 20:02:03 +0200

Which are latest feature/attraction in new hubzilla version.

@Admin VFfsM e.V.

StandleStill

Mon, 08 Apr 2019 19:51:30 +0200

@Hubzilla Support Forum , A) i am not able to send message from hubzilla to mastodon, please advise me how to do it. & B) also advise how to send email from hubzilla to gmail/yahoomail if possible.

Admin VFfsM e.V.

Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:52:18 +0200

With @ you can mention a channel (user). If the channel supports the feature you can also post with ! and the name to inform contacts of the channel about the post. That's what the channel type "Forum" does :)

So, if you mention !Hubzilla Support Forum not only the owner of the forum gets a notification, but also many other users.

Chat from start.hubzilla.org

StandleStill

Sun, 07 Apr 2019 17:07:03 +0200

1) I created a chatroom, how can i invite others in that chatroom? Is it possible to connect to IRC/slack/telegram/matrix chatrooms, how?
2) How to send/receive messages from mastodon/diaspora users? How to find them?
3) How to use nextcloud services from this hub?
4) are there any public chatrooms available in federation/fediverse/diaspora/hubzilla/mastodon?

Chat nextcloud mastodon fediverse

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Admin VFfsM e.V.

Mon, 08 Apr 2019 19:24:59 +0200

Hello, welcome! I didn't notice you coming in... :)

1) As far as I know your chatroom is connected to your channel (I never used chatrooms, yet), so other users can go to your channel, then via the Hamburger menu (the three lines in the upper right) to "Chatrooms", there they will find your room and can join it. It is not a public chat that is available from outside of Hubzilla.
2) Activate GnuSocial, Diaspora and / or ActivityPub apps under Hamburger menu -> Add apps first. Then you will start getting from and sending to the other protocolls.
3) I have no idea :)
4) No, but I think that would be a nice idea. The only thing I guess is a problem is to get a few people there at the same time. I will suggest a public chat to some people and let you know if we open one. Until then you can of course try to offer one yourself -- just open a chatroom and tell the fediverseration about it, e.g. by addressing the New Here forum (newhere@sparklechicken.net, you can mention a forum by writing ! and the name in a post -- maybe you need to add them as contact first).

In the future you can try addressing either me ("at" admin@mint-n-er.de) or the Hubzilla support forum (mentioning again with !) or both for faster responses.

StandleStill

Mon, 08 Apr 2019 19:38:52 +0200

4) i am excited to hear about those chatrooms, we can create one.

Speaking frankly, all of these things are very complex to understand at least for me, So i am sure it would be good for any novice user to have a chatroom, so people who are experienced/free can share their valuable knowledge, documentation is not upto the mark, so chatting could be quite better for human understanding.

Anyways, thanks you so much. you became my first real friend here by first comment/reply.

StandleStill

Mon, 08 Apr 2019 19:42:52 +0200

@Admin VFfsM e.V. i am not sure how to address hubzilla support forum. please advise demo.

StandleStill

Mon, 08 Apr 2019 19:43:27 +0200

@Admin VFfsM e.V. i am not sure how to connect to newhere@sparklechicken.net

StandleStill

Mon, 08 Apr 2019 19:47:25 +0200

ok i could see from here
https://zotadel.net/channel/support&jsdisabled=0&jsdisabled=0&cat=channel)

exactly what you said. (it was bit strange for me to address someone/thing by putting intermediate space)
!hubzilla support forum or !Hubzilla Support Forum , A) i am not able to send message from hubzilla to mastodon, please advise me how to do it. & B) also advise how to send email from hubzilla to gmail/yahoomail if possible.

StandleStill

Mon, 08 Apr 2019 19:48:44 +0200

i was not connected earlier with HSF, now i am connected, hence need to resend.
!hubzilla support forum or !Hubzilla Support Forum , A) i am not able to send message from hubzilla to mastodon, please advise me how to do it. & B) also advise how to send email from hubzilla to gmail/yahoomail if possible.